Comments on this trivia

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   The_True_Xander on August 14th, 2006 at 4:19 am

   It’s always annoyed me that Jonathan had to be drained completely and have nothing happen, when Spike just had to dribble a little of his COLD, DEAD blood onto the seal for it to pop open like a horrific Jack In The Box.

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   stephanieisit on June 6th, 2007 at 8:21 pm

   I thought Jonathan’s blood didn’t work because he was anaemic?

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   Meghann on June 7th, 2007 at 5:41 am

   The_True_Xander: I think the seal just needed more blood then Jonathan’s small body could provide. Joined together, Spike’s blood was just enough to open the seal.

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   Meghann on June 7th, 2007 at 5:43 am

   StephanieIsIt: I believe it was due to his small statue and not providing enough blood. I think the anemic comment was out of jest. :o)
   “Hey, this isn’t your fault, OK. It’s my fault the ritual didn’t work. I screwed up. I’m little

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   stephanieisit on June 14th, 2007 at 12:49 am

   I think it’s just because the writers wanted it to be that way. Didn’t the seal open when Buffy and all the potentials cut their hands? How would that produce more blood than the whole of Jonathan?! I get that he’s small but he’s not THAT small…

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   Wynter on June 14th, 2007 at 1:39 am

   Yeah but with Buffy and Faith being Slayers, and all the Potentials having untapped Slayer energy, their blood is probably alot more powerful than Jonathon’s, so the seal wouldn’t need as much to open.

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   stephanieisit on June 14th, 2007 at 7:28 pm

   So it’s not really the amount of blood, just how powerful it is?
   I think it’s just something the writers never really thought about. Like, “Blood opens it but only when we want it to!”

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   slayed on July 9th, 2007 at 8:38 pm

   Another theory about why the seal did not open with Jonathan’s blood:

   Remember how Jonathan goes all nostalgic about high school: “Well I still care about them. That’s why I’m here.”? Maybe Jonathan was too good? Maybe that’s what the writers are trying to say? That is, evilness (evil blood) is required to open the seal (a metaphor for the dark place in our soul?).

   We know that the slayers are part demon (and therefore part evil) the series makes many references to that. Their blood, and of course Spike’s, opens the seal, but not the blood of someone who has no real evilness in them like Jonathan.

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   slayed on July 9th, 2007 at 8:41 pm

   Oh, also, remember that Andrew’s tears are need to shut the seal down. So, evilness is required to open the dark place and repentance or sorrow for past deeds is required to close that dark place once it is opened.

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    Spuffy Freak on July 13th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    So, evilness is required to open the dark place and repentance or sorrow for past deeds is required to close that dark place once it is opened.

    Yeah, that does make sense. And, as you pointed out, the Slayer’s power does have its side of dark, as it was taken from the essence of a pure demon, but demon nonetheless.

    And what better than to open the seal than to use a hundred or so vampire that has done so much harm, albeit that has a soul.

    Maybe that’s precisely what the writers were somewhat thinking. Given Jonathan’s last thoughts. Even if he did join the Trio and had his magical incident in S4, he was a good guy… So the pig there was kind of off. Perhaps the First didn’t know. I dunno, it could be interpreted in many ways.

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    stephanieisit on July 15th, 2007 at 2:50 am

    But Lyssa opened it with Xander’s blood, and we know he ain’t evil.

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    Spuffy Freak on September 12th, 2007 at 6:05 am

    But Lyssa opened it with Xander’s blood, and we know he ain’t evil

    Hmm, forgot ’bout that. Good point. Maybe there isn’t a *real* definite reasoning as to what and how the seal was opened.

    Perhaps to open the seal for the first time, it was required more blood, than later seemed to be. Because in the latter episodes when they’d open the seal again, simply a few drops of blood would be enough… As I don’t think Xander bled a lot on the seal for it to start opening in First Date.

    While on the subject, another thing that most of us never often take into consideration were those symbols-shaped cuts The First’s Harbingers cut into Spike’s chest/abdomen, in Never Leave Me… While on another BtVS message board, a fan brought up the perfect theory, and, all in all, a fairly good conclusion — Being that maybe they cut those symbols into his body as part of a spell, somewhat, resulting in making the first Übervamp that come out of there so strong.

    I never quite accepted the Ninja theory. Where one Ninja alone would be stronger than a whole bunch of ‘em together; similar to the Turok-Han deal… And it doesn’t quite add up.

    While with the ritual theory, it seems more fittin’. Perhaps another reason as to why the Seal of Danthazar didn’t open at first simply with Jonathan’s blood — while even if he was small, he was practically left there ‘dry’. When with Spike, wouldn’t have been nearly as much, I suppose.

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